Comments on: Is Soccer Un-American? - Part 2 http://cultureofsoccer.com/2007/10/19/is-soccer-un-american-part-2/ Thu, 04 Dec 2008 19:19:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Sara http://cultureofsoccer.com/2007/10/19/is-soccer-un-american-part-2/#comment-27725 Sara Thu, 29 May 2008 14:01:23 +0000 http://cultureofsoccer.com/2007/10/19/is-soccer-un-american-part-2/#comment-27725 hello hello

]]> By: Zé http://cultureofsoccer.com/2007/10/19/is-soccer-un-american-part-2/#comment-4521 Zé Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:05:10 +0000 http://cultureofsoccer.com/2007/10/19/is-soccer-un-american-part-2/#comment-4521 It´s an interesting view, thank you. I know very little of american sports but from my point of view is strange how american sports seem to be much more "socialist" in their league and club setups than real football ( I can not call it soccer, sorry), with things like no relegation or promotion, drafts ensuring players have to no choice where they want to play, and even talks of salary caps. All of that is deeply strange to somebody who grew up with european football club structure, which seems to have a lot more freedoms for clubs and players. It´s an interesting view, thank you. I know very little of american sports but from my point of view is strange how american sports seem to be much more “socialist” in their league and club setups than real football ( I can not call it soccer, sorry), with things like no relegation or promotion, drafts ensuring players have to no choice where they want to play, and even talks of salary caps. All of that is deeply strange to somebody who grew up with european football club structure, which seems to have a lot more freedoms for clubs and players.

]]> By: guignol http://cultureofsoccer.com/2007/10/19/is-soccer-un-american-part-2/#comment-4517 guignol Mon, 29 Oct 2007 09:48:18 +0000 http://cultureofsoccer.com/2007/10/19/is-soccer-un-american-part-2/#comment-4517 i'm not sure the "everybody plays at any cost" attitude is good at all. when i was coached soccer 25 years ago in CA my team lost every match but the parents thought "so highly" of me... what they didn't realize is that i was TRYING to make the team win, but was just a rotten coach. now that i CAN coach, whether it's soccer in the states or basketball here in france i make sure my teams listen, work hard, suffer if necessary, and win, not all, but as many games as they can. that's how sports helps them grow up. i’m not sure the “everybody plays at any cost” attitude is good at all. when i was coached soccer 25 years ago in CA my team lost every match but the parents thought “so highly” of me… what they didn’t realize is that i was TRYING to make the team win, but was just a rotten coach. now that i CAN coach, whether it’s soccer in the states or basketball here in france i make sure my teams listen, work hard, suffer if necessary, and win, not all, but as many games as they can. that’s how sports helps them grow up.

]]> By: Tom http://cultureofsoccer.com/2007/10/19/is-soccer-un-american-part-2/#comment-4350 Tom Thu, 25 Oct 2007 10:56:18 +0000 http://cultureofsoccer.com/2007/10/19/is-soccer-un-american-part-2/#comment-4350 What an insightful point about the AYSO's influence on American perceptions about soccer. It explains so much. I never could quite figure out the source of the disconnect between the game of soccer as I knew it and the perceptions of soccer as expressed by many other Americans. The AYSO explanation goes a long way to helping it make sense. What an insightful point about the AYSO’s influence on American perceptions about soccer. It explains so much.

I never could quite figure out the source of the disconnect between the game of soccer as I knew it and the perceptions of soccer as expressed by many other Americans. The AYSO explanation goes a long way to helping it make sense.

]]> By: Soccer Source http://cultureofsoccer.com/2007/10/19/is-soccer-un-american-part-2/#comment-4114 Soccer Source Sat, 20 Oct 2007 04:11:20 +0000 http://cultureofsoccer.com/2007/10/19/is-soccer-un-american-part-2/#comment-4114 rebuttal: http://soccer-source.blogspot.com/2007/10/lets-settle-this-no-soccer-is-not-un.html rebuttal:
http://soccer-source.blogspot.com/2007/10/lets-settle-this-no-soccer-is-not-un.html

]]> By: joejoejoe http://cultureofsoccer.com/2007/10/19/is-soccer-un-american-part-2/#comment-4112 joejoejoe Sat, 20 Oct 2007 03:26:25 +0000 http://cultureofsoccer.com/2007/10/19/is-soccer-un-american-part-2/#comment-4112 I see a better representation of egalitarian American values in the promotion/relegation systems of foreign leagues and the popularity of open cups than in the closed franchise system of U.S. sports which resembles the planned economies of socialism than an open, free society. I wish USL would completely adopt the promotion/relegation model, do away with franchise location protection, and a transfer market setup more in keeping with Europe. I think the quality and professionalism would take off around the U.S. with hundreds of cities fielding semi-pro sides and a few suprises rising to the top instead of a planned league like MLS that is a closed system. I see a better representation of egalitarian American values in the promotion/relegation systems of foreign leagues and the popularity of open cups than in the closed franchise system of U.S. sports which resembles the planned economies of socialism than an open, free society.

I wish USL would completely adopt the promotion/relegation model, do away with franchise location protection, and a transfer market setup more in keeping with Europe. I think the quality and professionalism would take off around the U.S. with hundreds of cities fielding semi-pro sides and a few suprises rising to the top instead of a planned league like MLS that is a closed system.

]]> By: Trvr http://cultureofsoccer.com/2007/10/19/is-soccer-un-american-part-2/#comment-4105 Trvr Sat, 20 Oct 2007 00:40:51 +0000 http://cultureofsoccer.com/2007/10/19/is-soccer-un-american-part-2/#comment-4105 you should write a book you should write a book

]]> By: Comandante Agi http://cultureofsoccer.com/2007/10/19/is-soccer-un-american-part-2/#comment-4103 Comandante Agi Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:40:00 +0000 http://cultureofsoccer.com/2007/10/19/is-soccer-un-american-part-2/#comment-4103 <a href="http://youtube.com/watch?v=9HNgqQVHI_8" rel="nofollow">Here</a> is some classic footage of Jim being his usual douchebag self. I'm not much of an Eric Wynalda fan but I respect the fact that he stood up to Rome. Here is some classic footage of Jim being his usual douchebag self. I’m not much of an Eric Wynalda fan but I respect the fact that he stood up to Rome.

]]> By: Culture of Soccer » Blog Archive » Is Soccer Un-American? - Part 1 http://cultureofsoccer.com/2007/10/19/is-soccer-un-american-part-2/#comment-4093 Culture of Soccer » Blog Archive » Is Soccer Un-American? - Part 1 Fri, 19 Oct 2007 15:52:55 +0000 http://cultureofsoccer.com/2007/10/19/is-soccer-un-american-part-2/#comment-4093 [...] Part 2 is available here. [...] [...] Part 2 is available here. [...]

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