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	<title>Comments on: Asian Cup 2004 Protests and China-Japan Relations</title>
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		<title>By: Hank</title>
		<link>http://cultureofsoccer.com/2007/03/20/asian-cup-2004-protests-and-china-japan-relations/#comment-672</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Jun 2007 21:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems like the Asian community in the United States has no problem with Japan being portrayed heroically in World War II.

http://azntv.com/axawards/night_of_excellence/winners.aspx

Outstanding Film: Letters from Iwo Jima

Nominated for 4 Academy Awards including Best Picture, Clint Eastwoodâ€™s Letters from Iwo Jima tells the untold story of the Japanese soldiers who defended their homeland against invading American forces during World War II. With little defense other than sheer will and the volcanic rock of Iwo Jima itself, the unprecedented tactics of General Tadamichi Kuribayashi (Ken Watanabe, The Last Samurai) and his men transform what was predicted to be a swift defeat into nearly 40 days of heroic and resourceful combat. Their sacrifices, struggles, courage and compassion live on in the taut, gripping film Rolling Stone calls â€œunique and unforgettable.â€ It is the powerful companion to Flags of our Fathers.

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I am not one to hold a grudge but the Japanese used Chinese citizens for chemical warfare testing. The Chinese still havenâ€™t forgiven them for that.

And somehow American history has lost the stories of how the Japanese treated American Prisoners of War

And how about the Rape of Nanking?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EL3h8rTwvg

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4920138942953644691

But, no to Clint Eastwood (and I guess the American Asian Community who honored his film) the Japanese soldiers were merely defending their homeland against those mean olde invading American imperialists.

Clint Eastwood is a traitor to America who has denigrated all those who fought in the Pacific as merely racist imperialists going after the yellow men instead of the liberators of Asia which they really were.

I spit on Clint Eastwood! No wonder Hollyweird canâ€™t distinguish the good guys from the bad guys in Iraq when they canâ€™t even do that when it comes to the Japanese in World War II.

By the way, on the Truth Serum video, of course I disagree with the whole part accusing Bush or America covering it up in order to get access to the scientific research that the Japanese inhumanly performed. That is just insane.

But everything else on that Truth Serum video seems historically accurate. If that isnâ€™t the case, I would really appreciate someone educating me to the inaccuracies in the video.

I do wonder why we didnâ€™t after World War II convict Japanese of War Crimes to the extent we did the Germans. They Japanese did terrible things to AMERICAN POWs. From my understanding the Japanese treated American POWs far worst by and large than the Germans did. And then of course there was the way they treated the Asian Civilian communities they invaded. They never seemed to be personally held accountable for it the way the Germans were the Holocaust.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like the Asian community in the United States has no problem with Japan being portrayed heroically in World War II.</p>
<p><a href="http://azntv.com/axawards/night_of_excellence/winners.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://azntv.com/axawards/night_of_excellence/winners.aspx</a></p>
<p>Outstanding Film: Letters from Iwo Jima</p>
<p>Nominated for 4 Academy Awards including Best Picture, Clint Eastwoodâ€™s Letters from Iwo Jima tells the untold story of the Japanese soldiers who defended their homeland against invading American forces during World War II. With little defense other than sheer will and the volcanic rock of Iwo Jima itself, the unprecedented tactics of General Tadamichi Kuribayashi (Ken Watanabe, The Last Samurai) and his men transform what was predicted to be a swift defeat into nearly 40 days of heroic and resourceful combat. Their sacrifices, struggles, courage and compassion live on in the taut, gripping film Rolling Stone calls â€œunique and unforgettable.â€ It is the powerful companion to Flags of our Fathers.</p>
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<p>I am not one to hold a grudge but the Japanese used Chinese citizens for chemical warfare testing. The Chinese still havenâ€™t forgiven them for that.</p>
<p>And somehow American history has lost the stories of how the Japanese treated American Prisoners of War</p>
<p>And how about the Rape of Nanking?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EL3h8rTwvg" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EL3h8rTwvg</a></p>
<p><a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4920138942953644691" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4920138942953644691</a></p>
<p>But, no to Clint Eastwood (and I guess the American Asian Community who honored his film) the Japanese soldiers were merely defending their homeland against those mean olde invading American imperialists.</p>
<p>Clint Eastwood is a traitor to America who has denigrated all those who fought in the Pacific as merely racist imperialists going after the yellow men instead of the liberators of Asia which they really were.</p>
<p>I spit on Clint Eastwood! No wonder Hollyweird canâ€™t distinguish the good guys from the bad guys in Iraq when they canâ€™t even do that when it comes to the Japanese in World War II.</p>
<p>By the way, on the Truth Serum video, of course I disagree with the whole part accusing Bush or America covering it up in order to get access to the scientific research that the Japanese inhumanly performed. That is just insane.</p>
<p>But everything else on that Truth Serum video seems historically accurate. If that isnâ€™t the case, I would really appreciate someone educating me to the inaccuracies in the video.</p>
<p>I do wonder why we didnâ€™t after World War II convict Japanese of War Crimes to the extent we did the Germans. They Japanese did terrible things to AMERICAN POWs. From my understanding the Japanese treated American POWs far worst by and large than the Germans did. And then of course there was the way they treated the Asian Civilian communities they invaded. They never seemed to be personally held accountable for it the way the Germans were the Holocaust.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
		<link>http://cultureofsoccer.com/2007/03/20/asian-cup-2004-protests-and-china-japan-relations/#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2007 01:29:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drogballs - Thanks for your comment. I agree with you that both China and Japan have sins to atone for. That said, they should do so in the political arena, not by encouraging animosity between their fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drogballs - Thanks for your comment. I agree with you that both China and Japan have sins to atone for. That said, they should do so in the political arena, not by encouraging animosity between their fans.</p>
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		<title>By: drogballs</title>
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		<dc:creator>drogballs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Mar 2007 02:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Top post mate. I can understand the feelings and resentment from the Chinese as I'm from one of the nations that was under the Japanese occupation (Singapore) but obviously not old enough to go through it (only 20 this year).

First and foremost, no matter what the Japanese have done, I think it shouldn't affect football at all. Don't bring in hatred into a game we love and something that's totally not relevant.

But yet it's understandable. Rivalries are rife even at club level and these two nations might never come face to face with their own problems.

Japan doesn't want to admit while the Chinese doesn't want to let go. No step taken by either side, no chance of any reconciliation in the near future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Top post mate. I can understand the feelings and resentment from the Chinese as I&#8217;m from one of the nations that was under the Japanese occupation (Singapore) but obviously not old enough to go through it (only 20 this year).</p>
<p>First and foremost, no matter what the Japanese have done, I think it shouldn&#8217;t affect football at all. Don&#8217;t bring in hatred into a game we love and something that&#8217;s totally not relevant.</p>
<p>But yet it&#8217;s understandable. Rivalries are rife even at club level and these two nations might never come face to face with their own problems.</p>
<p>Japan doesn&#8217;t want to admit while the Chinese doesn&#8217;t want to let go. No step taken by either side, no chance of any reconciliation in the near future.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:28:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HeiaVincent - You're right, that is a more accurate statement of what I believe. In fact, after I wrote this I was thinking that I completely approve of games, like the US vs. Iran in the 1998 World Cup, which are billed as having the potential (unfulfilled in this case) to lead to peace and reconciliation. So, thank you for helping me to clarify what I truly intended to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HeiaVincent - You&#8217;re right, that is a more accurate statement of what I believe. In fact, after I wrote this I was thinking that I completely approve of games, like the US vs. Iran in the 1998 World Cup, which are billed as having the potential (unfulfilled in this case) to lead to peace and reconciliation. So, thank you for helping me to clarify what I truly intended to say.</p>
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		<title>By: HeiaVincent</title>
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		<dc:creator>HeiaVincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 19:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Ultimately, soccer tournaments should be about sports, not politics."

And, come on. That's a very &lt;i&gt;uncool&lt;/i&gt; statement. What you really mean, must be, that violence has no place in society. Withdrawing politics from sports, takes away half the fun. Would River Plate vs. Boca Juniors be the same without the social and class politics that surrounds it? Would Rangers vs. Celtic be as emotional? No.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ultimately, soccer tournaments should be about sports, not politics.&#8221;</p>
<p>And, come on. That&#8217;s a very <i>uncool</i> statement. What you really mean, must be, that violence has no place in society. Withdrawing politics from sports, takes away half the fun. Would River Plate vs. Boca Juniors be the same without the social and class politics that surrounds it? Would Rangers vs. Celtic be as emotional? No.</p>
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		<title>By: blackwhiteandgrey</title>
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		<dc:creator>blackwhiteandgrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 12:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm originally from China, so this is a topic near and dear to me, and I agree with your points.  Both sides have a responsibility to take steps that will decrease tensions.  Authorities on both sides must realize that no matter how helpful it may be to stir up nationalistic sentiment now, that kind of thing tends to get out of control, beyond anyone's expectations.

(But my Japanese comrades can at least rest easy on the football front, as our team is so bad that the Japanese NT will be kicking our asses for at least another 10 years.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m originally from China, so this is a topic near and dear to me, and I agree with your points.  Both sides have a responsibility to take steps that will decrease tensions.  Authorities on both sides must realize that no matter how helpful it may be to stir up nationalistic sentiment now, that kind of thing tends to get out of control, beyond anyone&#8217;s expectations.</p>
<p>(But my Japanese comrades can at least rest easy on the football front, as our team is so bad that the Japanese NT will be kicking our asses for at least another 10 years.)</p>
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		<title>By: HeiaVincent</title>
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		<dc:creator>HeiaVincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 09:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The soccer field is a semiotic battlefield. And whatever meaning one gives to these "symbols" are up to the spectators. And thus, this game is given political meaning. Shame, but not that surprising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The soccer field is a semiotic battlefield. And whatever meaning one gives to these &#8220;symbols&#8221; are up to the spectators. And thus, this game is given political meaning. Shame, but not that surprising.</p>
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